
It’s here and it’s actually a surprise. We knew we were going to hear about secret-until-now features about Leopard. We figured there would be talk about iPhone’s third party capabilities. But this takes the cake. Safari on Windows? I seriously thought he was joking. Nope. No joke.
I am typing this on Safari 3 on my BlackBook, and I highly recommend (and if I could, I would even require) that you download Safari 3 whether you’re a Windows or Mac user. The speed on this is blazing. Leaves Firefox in the dust!
You can click here to download it. I suggest you do so ASAP. I can’t even begin to express the urgency one should do this in.
UPDATE: Two days after the download and I’ve had not even one crash. I Ran it side by side with Firefox and I actually became impatient with Firefox 2. Maybe Firefox 3 will change things, but right now Safari 3 is much faster. Have any mac users with this beta had any crashes? I have yet to have any at all, and I run pretty resource-hungry websites. I have only noticed one bug. On the game iLike in Facebook, the game tells me there is an error receiving my answer the first time, but the second time it works. Other than that though, absolutely nothing.
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Everything leaves Firefox’s slow and unresponsive self in the dust, so saying that Safari is faster isn’t really saying anything. What’d be amazing is if it were faster than Opera, which it isn’t. Still, it’s cool that Windows now has the second best browser out there.
Downloaded it, tested it, deleted it
most of the sites aren’t shown like they should! for example GMail works like shit in Safari 3 for Windows
I’m not saying Safari is bad, but this beta is far from final
I hate the font used, and the ClearType is awful. Speed is good, but I’m back to FireFox because it displays pages better.
i’ll keep it (for screen shots) but i’m back to fire fox, because it’s just so customizable!
I really like the fonts and look of it. However there are somethings I like firefox more for though:
1. It loads up faster
2. Loads pages way faster
3. So much more customizable
4. Adblock
Still I understand that this is still beta so I’m going to keep it on my computer, but probably use firefox.
I actually really like the font-smoothing on this. It’s smooth and creamy, just like I want it. I like the embossed bookmarks text and the left-sided tabs (can be done on FF, but anyway…). It seems to load pages faster than FF, though. Might be my computer.
Its nice to finally have a webkit browser on windows. Kinda glitchy right now (unable to download with it for some reason) but has potential to be most excellent.
Lol, Firefox DOES NOT display paged better. How? Because it fails the web standards compliance test where Safari and Opera pass it. No offense, but Firefox displays pages wrong and Safari displays them right.
ok, i have used just about every web browser:internet, firefox, netscape,opera, flock etc etc. i downloaded safari and i must say it compares hight with flock+ firefox, after a couple times used, safari speeds up, and starts up quicker, loads pages faster, the only downfall is that IT IS NOT VERY CUSTOMIZABLE, in that department lys firefox and flock(a very similar to firefox browser). I reccomened safari to those who want their PC to “look like or imitate a mac” and for the average joe, i would stick to something like firefox or opera- if going for performance.
lol William, I agree. Comparing the font-rendering, especially, between Safari & Firefox, Safari wins. Rendering is really good in Safari so far. But whatever. Each to his/her own, I guess.
Still, I never liked the way fonts looked in Firefox. It just didn’t look very smooth. I guess I don’t like “crispier” looking fonts.
Worlds fastest Browser!!!
I tested them all base on their speed and here are the result.
1.Safari 3.0 (Excellent)
2.Netscape Navigator 9.0(Very Good)
3.Internet Explorer 7.0 (Good)
4.Opera(Good)
5.Firefox(Good)
Mac version’s Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay faster than windows version It’s proven because I have both on the same machine via bootcamp
I am happy that Apple is making these apps available on PC. I have read with interest the various comments and I guess the speed and workability will remain both a logon/browser speed issue and a subjective preference.
What drives me crazy about these apps is that I want to be able to evoke Mac options to the interface. Because I work almost exclusively on Mac, I would prefer to be able to make the PC apps behave in a similar fashion - ie layout, buttons etc.
I recognise the fact that the default needs to be “PC orietated”, but not everyone wants to keep it that way..
I look forward to seeing how this evolves
Cody, um… No. Opera is the worlds fastest. I don’t care if you tested them or not, I’ve used them all on Windows, Mac OS X and Linux and Opera performs the best. After that, however, Safari is the second I feel.
omg… LOL! i installed it on vista and first pressed the bookmark button… CRASH!
and pressed it after a restart agin… CRASH!
restarded and clicked the add bookmark button… and again… crash!
this is far awy from perfect…
i mean:
1. it has a fil, edit, view menu!
2. crash, crash, crash
3. no colored close maximize minimize orbs. (time for a plugin ppl!)
4. scrollbar arrows
i know this is still a beta but anyway… THX APPLE! XD
^ Well, it didn’t crash for me. But it’s still too bad. I mean, for get about the features (Opera’s the best that way *and* the fastest to boot) but this doesn’t even have the looks. I mean, why does it have that greasy, plastic look. Where’s the clean Safari brushed look!!? You can’t even use this thing for screenshots! I’m sorry if I’m ranting, but this is too bad, >:(
to avoid safari crash on vista, please run it compatible with Windows Xp.
So far I hate it.
the text on webpages isn’t displayed, the menus are there but the text is invisible.
every time I try to bookmark or open the bookmarks list it crashed.
I’m hoping this is bug related and I’ll keep it for sometime to see if a solution comes out.
I’ve been waiting for this that I don’t mind waiting a little more.
Didn’t work very well. Webpages weren’t displayed correctly, there was text missing and other stuff. Plus it was slow. Quite slow. BUT, if they fix it up, I believe it’s gonna be one of the best browsers available. Won’t delete it anyways.
And I’m talking ’bout the Windows version.
Does anyone know of a way to sync between Firefox and Safari bookmarks?
I use both browsers, but right now everything is in my Firefox browser… I’d love to be able to have seamless syncing between the two.
Thanks!
schizotechgeek@gmail.com
I have this Safari 3 beta but it has lost of bugs and when i lounch it i show’s me Windows error which say that safari has some error and will be colsed so i cant us this web browser :/
Ojalord: They’re doing away with the brushed look in the next release of Mac OS X. The entire theme of it will basically be like the current iTunes, even down to finder. They were getting complaints of an inconsistent look, so now they’re making a consistent one.
This is the greatest browser around, and it’s now for PC! I can’t believe it! Well, I think someone should make a plugin to disable the text menus and have the colored orbs on the top to make it more mac-like.
Installed Safari 3. Big expectations. Downer.
Re-installed Mozilla Firefox. Better. Applied Safari-skin to Firefox. Happy again
Reasons? Same as the majority of ppl who commented above…
I liked the Safari, tested ot out a bit and found it loads pages faster than firefox, but it uses way too much memory than firefox, 5 times more! They need to do something about that.
If Safari crashes get Flock browser, if u like the cute look of mac.
@William: I did find that out. I’ve never liked the iTunes default look anyway and it was pretty depressing to know that that’s the look every app was going to have now. I mean, I nearly puked at the screenshots of the new Finder on Apple’s webpage. And why the hell would anyone in their right minds want to browse files in cover-flow mode…Oh well, I guess it’s pretty subjective. I shouldn’t rant on so. Sorry.
I think I’m one of the luckier few who’ve got away with fewer bugs showing up. There are a few glitches, though. For example, the screen will ‘tear’ when scrolling a webpage; And the window maximises or restores in a very drunken manner. BTW, does someone know how to get a new tab button onto the toolbar…
@ Andrew, I didn’t get the relation between Flock and the cute, mac look. One might as well as use Opera with the Expedition skin or Firefox(if very desperate) with the Macfox themes. Why Flock?
Ojalord: Yeah, I am really not wanting to upgrade my Mac now lol. The new dock is pretty cool I guess, but I want my taskbar to be fully visible, I hope they make that possible. As for the look, I think that brushed metal is nice, but was getting old. I just hate what they replaced it with, though the new sidebar in folder is great now. And the new icons are okay, but still pretty bad. I hope they decide to give us the option of old theme and new theme in the new release, other-wise I guess I’ll go buy Shapeshifter.
Downloaded, installed, uninstalled. Well I guess this beta needs major debugging… I tried it on 3 PC with WinXP SP2 and can’t even get simple pages to display properly… missing menus, missing text… And I am talking about very popular sites such as dpreview, tomshardware, anandtech or eBay..
I will give Safari another chance when the final version become available. Now it is simply unusable for me.
If the font smoothing could be for Firefox, I’d keep it. I just like all the mac styles it has. I keep getting “Failed to load page”, but I hope it is way better for the final.
IT’S A BETA, PEOPLE. Beta means that yes, there are going to be problems with the program. You report them, Apple receives the info and fixes the problem(s) for the stable release (which is set for October).
No logical human being expects a beta to yield the greatest web browser in history - there are bound to be a few hiccups along the way.
you really have ballz to compare safari with firefox, not to mention the dust stuff. now don’t get me wrong, i’m a mac user and i adore everything apple-related but there’s no way safari (on pc or mac) is better than firefox. there is no better browser… please make us all a favour and edit your post.
thank you
Guys Guys! It’s just a public beta version! You shoud be thankfull for even releasing it as public.
In fact Safari LOADS PAGES FASTER THEN ANY OTHER BROWSER IN THE WORLD(ON MAC, haven’t tested it yet on windows, but I’m sure that result will be same)! EVEN MICROSOFT AGREES WITH ME!
BTW It shouldn’t be customizable IMHO, it’s Apples official theme(Just like they did it in windows version of iTunes(but then some evil guy released the multi plugin and ruined everything, I hate that little app)).
Bug Report:
1. If you try to click on link somewhere on the page - WITCH IS NOT YET FULLY LOADED - Safari displayes “Uknown Error”
Some Method to fix other bugs:
Set The Regional settings to English(unided states) that shoud fix the bug with bookmarks, preferences saving etc.
cheers.
ohhhh yeah
To everybody out there pointing out that 1) this is just a beta AND 2) safari is fast. Well I would expect some bugs and crashes, yes. That would be normal for a beta. But I would also espect the browser to display decently most websites and, unfortunately, this is not the case (not yet, at least). So for the time being, this beta is simply unusable for me, too much missing parts in websites.. invisible text, invisible menus…
aoleks: There is a better browser than crappy old Firefox, and that’s called Opera.
fast enough for me. and o yeah, gmail works fine.
hey! ver 3.0.1 hope this one is better XD
nothing special. win version is not faster than firefox and no other browser in general is easy to use, customizable and secure as firefox. just get a safari theme for your firefox and enjoy both worlds…
firefox all e way! With its customizability, i really can’t ask for more!
ps: firefox can be mod to look like safari, u just need to correct extensions and themes.
Safari, i would say, are for noobs. I do not see how is it easier to use……..
All browsers have the same design (forward, backward, stop, reload, address bar, search bar, menus, bookmarks, RSS….). I do not see how is it “easier to use” as claimed by apple.
Furthermore, with nowadays’ broadband connection, i do not see how much my internet speeds differ across different browsers.
(i hav used IE 6, IE 7, Firefox in mac and PC, Safari in mac and PC and Opera)
in my opinion, Firefox is the way to go for me. Its prefetch feature works simply great
I’m having that missing text problem too.
I’m a bit late out here, but I found this one yesterday and I thought it might be interesting for someone: http://john.jubjubs.net/2007/06/14/a-pictures-worth-100m-users
For me that was the deciding drop. I like and appreciate mozilla firefox far too much to stand someone talking openly about stealing users from them. Mr. Jobs got really some things wrong. But I guess if you are interested you’re gonna find more on the subject.
Right now safari is out of my pc (I’m quite angry… and idealistic
)
What would be amazing was that the steaming pile of shi.. Safari, would actually work and display the webpages correctly instead of crashing every 5 f¤cking minutes
Safari is completely working for me. The only (BIG) thing, is that I cannot save webpages. Dont know why. I suppose they will fix it in another release. But anyway Im using it like crazy to test my site
Safari is working pretty good
for me. I actually like it’s
font rendering better than
Windows’ font rendering. Is
there any way I can emulate
it in Windows? Curious.
Tina, no. ClearType is as close you get. In Vista, it’s always on, and in XP you have to go into Right-click desktop->Properties->Appearance->Effects->Font Smoothing->ClearType.
I don’t understand why people like Apple’s hideous font smoothing, but that’s just me.